People white-knighting for Nintendo against a company that gave them an enjoyably Pokemon game.
Oh man time to bring out the popcorn.
The Palworld fanboys are already trying to mental gymnastics their way out of this “It’s just PR! Gamefreak is bluffing!!!1”
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Yeah, if one of the most litigious gaming companies out there hasn’t filed a suit against them, then I think they might be ok, unless they can somehow prove parts of assets were used.
The closest Nintendo has gotten to legal stuff was against a modder for Palworld who used Pokemon and put the mod behind a paywall and I’m pretty sure if they didn’t charge they might have been left alone maybe.
Reading the linked article? You are asking the impossible.
That was disproven several times - the guy who claimed it even admitted he’d altered Palworld’s assets to show that supposed ‘similarity’
Source? Or is this a “dude trust me”
Screenrant Article here from a day ago. It does still state that Nintendo intends to investigate, but most of the stolen/copied asset claims have been refuted or rescinded. With the main “they stole assets” person admitting they fabricated the proof because they hate how Palworld glorifies animal abuse (which is extremely ironic to me because no one had a problem when Pokémon was cockfighting for children)
Do you have a source for that? This is the first I’m seeing that the claims were fraudulent.
The guy apparently rescaled the models to make them similar in size, which, idk if I’d call that altering
I still think it’s kind of a BS claim though
No they are not.
Now that the game is out the assets can be ripped and directly compared, and so far the comparison shown by some people on the Internet have shown that many base models are nearly identical which is probablistically near impossible
Dude you are spreading misinformation.
I believe my own eyes https://twitter.com/covingtown/status/1749462735291859423. Remove the extra decoration and the underlying models are identical
To add to that. Here’s some analysis of a professional
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If you go to the account that this account uses for proof, you’ll see that the user (byofrog) admitted that they fudged the specs to make them look identical. This is not a one to one comparison
Doesn’t matter how similar it looks though.
The only way to tell is to open up both models and look at individual points of the 3d mesh. If their positions in 3d space match up to, say the hundred-thousandth of a decimal, then it is a copy.
But if the model was scaled or rotated or whatever, there would be no way to prove a case because there wouldn’t be a match.
The same thing was done to prove games was lying about copying models from previous games when they claimed that it was too difficult to add all previous monsters into different games because their converter tool was giving them issues.
Sorry to tell you but you are blind.
Palworld looks like shit, but it’s still better than any Pokemon game on the Switch
From what i’ve seen of the landscapes while playing, it looks beautiful. For example, was an area that reminded me of Yosemite National Park, very enchanting.
Meh, played scarlet on switch. It was enjoyable, not one of my top games but I can see the appeal to the fans. I just played through the main story line and then called it. Although hundreds of hours can be spent if someone wants to do everything. All in all, I don’t think it’s a terrible game.
Also I take the switch for what it is, a seven year old handheld. It’s not going to compete with a PC, Xbox or PS. As I’ve grown older I don’t care much for graphics but rather game play. And damn straight do I want sit on my couch in front of the TV with some sport in the background. I get it, it’s not for everyone but it’s what I like at this point in my life.
Wth it looks fantastic and runs good even on lower systems, unreal engine doing some work there.
Unreal engine is the ugliest of game engines right behind unity. The best looking game to exist is Elden Ring, I will not elaborate further, if you know you know
Go look at Ark survival then. It got beautiful graphics and neat identical but more fleshed out gameplay
Ark is probably the ugliest game I’ve ever seen
I mean. The guy who “broke” the story of IP “theft” in pal world admitted he made it up. Basically scaled models etc to make them look similar on purpose.
Well, Palworld developer now have $200 million more than a week ago so now they can afford lawyers as good as the Pokémon company.
It takes weeks until they see any of that Steam money from a game they just released in early access. Though a bank might likely give them a hefty loan now for a proper defense. But let‘s not pretend Japan copyright and trademark laws are lenient or reasonable and Nintendo is basically a national treasure. If Pocketpair was based in any other country it would be different but here we really do not know how it could go.
Imagine thinking steam is their only revenue.
It is actually with how it’s currently locked behind a Microsoft contract
its ridiculous the number of fucking nintendo stans that are crying for nintendo to do something about Palworld.
Nintendo is the most litigeous company in the world (They fucking DCMA’d themselves for fucks sake) , If Palworld violated anything and Nintendo had actual opportunity to sue for anything… They’d have done so long ago.
They fucking DCMA’d themselves for fucks sake
Oh, I want to hear the story behind this.
they had a complete meltdown when some people got tears of the kingdom early via shipping mishaps, so went on a massive rampage of DMCA notices to take down everything mentioning it. Youtube Videos, News Articles (that contained nothing but nintendo released official screen shots/images), and their own twitter account advertising the fucking game…
Incidentally, I’ve only really found a YT video and this KYM page talking about how Nintendo DMCA’d themselves. That should’ve been the headline of any gaming outlet - https://knowyourmeme.com/news/nintendo-accidentally-copyright-strikes-itself-in-its-effort-to-combat-tears-of-the-kingdom-leaks
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Your DMCA notice is in the mail, buddy!
Per copyright law in the United States, the designs must be 15% different to create one’s own artistic copyright. They’re several that are close, but 15% isn’t that much. Obviously Nintendo isn’t a US company, but it’ll be interesting to set how this goes
Both Nintendo and Pocketpair are Japanese companies and their copyright laws are MUCH more harsh. In fact Japan even lacks concepts of “Fair use”
Add to that the fact that public opinion also matters intensely in Japanese courts (think juries) and that Pokémon is considered a national treasure and well… Things are stacked against Pocketpair
How the fuck do you even define a percentage point of difference for a creature’s design ?
They do that mario party game where you trace the outline
Pretty sure this is a common myth. I’m curious if anyone has a source on this.
I minored in business law and we were taught this
Your teaching professor likely misinterpreted the fair use doctrine’s wording. Apparently this is a common mistake. I made sure to look this up.
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The pirate version plays fine and even has access to online, so it’s unlikely that it’ll become lost media anytime soon
I think its a good game that you play with friends. It has a lot of minecraft (get resources and build shit) mechanics, so it is better played with others. I dont think you must play it now. Even if a lot of playes stop playing long the line, you can still enjoy the game with friends.
What if future updates double or even triple the dong? Any chance you’d reconsider then?
Chillet is basically one giant weiner you can ride around the world while blasting your pals from afar.
I think you may not be playing the game correctly.
They just waiting until it evolves into Chilltrio
A person of principles. I like it.
And considering the treck record of the company (BOTW and Hollow Knight ripped off) I half expect the Palworld devs to either sell off the project or to run off with the money. Did I mention the company lead also runs a scam business (cryptocurrency)?
Nintendo does, GameFreak and The Pokemon Company on the other hand…
I submit Nintendo’s online service as evidence that, that is not true in the least bit. MK8, Smash, Splatoon 3, all of them have atrocious online. Pokemon Unite using Tencent’s online services runs circles around anything Nintendo has offered with online being a major factor and that’s on same hardware.
Nintendo has their IP and they take extremely good care of it. No argument there. But holy shit is Nintendo’s online service absolute trash. I will always have something Nintendo because I must always have my Animal Crossing, but holy fuck, let’s not kid ourselves about Nintendo’s online stuff. Anything that’s using Nintendo’s servers for match making or their network stack for connectivity is just garbage.
I will always love a good Mario, Pikmin, or Animal Crossing but Nintendo clearly isn’t investing a single cent into online anything. And that is just my 2¢.
I agree with you on that but it’s a bit inaccurate to say them not pumping money into their games is not true in the least bit. It’s just their online services which are a disaster. Most of their games are still pretty damn great and it shows.
GameFreak sucks big time, one of the worst first party devs Nintendo has in their roster, but Palworld is such a bland, uninspired and generic attempt at copying Pokemon that I still can’t fathom how it became so popular.
Because people have been asking and craving for an actually good and fun new Pokémon game for yeaaars now, and Palworld delivered just that. It gives the people what they want.
People think it cool to hate on things that are popular, but this one makes perfect sense. It’s popular because it does what Gamefreak has been refusing to do for decades now.
Dude, seriously. The contrarians are out on full display with this game. You see the same poorly thought out points regurgitated in every thread.
The monsters look like Pokemon and you capture them in balls. That’s the extent of the similarities.
But what you can do after that is fun and unique. I’ve always wanted to play a game where I could live with Pokemon. Having a Vulpix help me cook my food and a Piplup help me water my crops is awesome.
And the counter argument against contrarians is that it’s not an issue that the monsters are uninspired copies. I mean it’s not like they are the leitmotiv of the game… I guess GameFreak managed to set the bar very low.
I’m reallu happy that people are enjoying the game, especially with GF underdelivering for so long, but to me, the game looks like an asset flip with heavy… inspiration in monster design.
Fathom not phantom
I have no clue how that happened… Thanks.
You can’t really argue that it is a pokemon game tho. The gameloop is a complete different one. The only thing they have in common are uninspired monster designs. And maybe the that you catch them with a ball.
Persona games have more in common with pokemon games than palworld does.
The game isn’t on switch so I bet a lot of the people saying it’s a ripoff haven’t even played it.
Fuck the pokemon company
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By Freaky Friday rules you would just be giving them another identity to send in affirming reports.
